Please remove IE6 Compatibility From Submission Approval Standards!

I agree with onuro on this one. IE6 should not be required, though it should be good habit to make sure it runs at least somewhat efficiently. For all the things TF is requiring now since the crack down, we should be getting a bump in pay because frankly, spending an extra 5-6 hours on IE6 fixes for only the potential gain of profit is a lot to ask for.

Now I’m again plus one here. Thank you cssdesigns

I always support IE6 even though its a dying (very slowly) there’s still alot of people out there that use it, all you really need to do is use a simple reset * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } that’s pretty much all I use, no hacks or separate ie6 stylesheets

Try complex layouts and You’ll see what we’re talking about.

I have and still don’t have any problems working the site out for across all browsers, if you know what works and what doesn’t it’s not very difficult to support it.

IMO as web designers/developers we need to support all browsers, even if one of them is a complete dinosaur, there’s still 20+% of users on ie6 and that’s still a pretty good amount of our audience. I also think it would probably affect sales if your template doesn’t support ie6.

Please shut up with the percentages. 20% here, 10% there, 65% there, argh! Good web designer should know when to drop IE support.

IMO as web designers/developers we need to support all browsers, even if one of them is a complete dinosaur, there’s still 20+% of users on ie6 and that’s still a pretty good amount of our audience. I also think it would probably affect sales if your template doesn’t support ie6.

From 5, Only 2 of my themes are IE6 compatible (which are not my best selling items). Speaking as one of the best sellers here, my current themes don’t completely support IE6 , I couldn’t even check because I don’t have IE6 for like 2 months now and there’s no software I could find that might help.

Anyways my stuff that don’t support IE6 sell, they sell good. I’m not going to sweat my ass for hours just to gain 3 more bucks. I shouldn’t have to.

I loved TF so far and I want to keep developing nice things that everyone can buy, but the IE6 rule is a big handicap.

I don’t think IE 6 should be a requirement. I think that if you choose not to support IE 6 , the least you can do is setup the theme/template to just display a message for those users that they need to upgrade their browser. That way visitors aren’t looking at some broken, ugly site that looks bad for the company/buyer.

As creative professionals I think it’s important to support features that certain groups of people require.

For instance, business’ and professionals that buy templates will want to make sure IE 6 functionality is included. Those people, however, are not going to be buying most of these blogging templates, etc.

So if you know who you are selling your template/theme to, then build it according to their needs. Most of the people looking for a blogging theme or a personal website, don’t give a crap about IE 6 .

At the same time, as creative professionals I do believe that we need to know when to say no and stop supporting something. I know there are plenty of people that disagree with that. The remaining population using IE 6 are not exactly the target audience most companies online are going for. So maybe 20% are still using IE 6 but only a small percentage of that 20% are actually people that business’ are trying to get as customers.

Plus, most of those people are going to upgrade their browsers as more people stop supporting it. It’s kind of at that breaking point I think.

Anyway, just my two cents. Oh, and if you’re wondering, I will continue building my templates as IE 6 compatible for awhile longer simply because I feel like it makes me better at my job. I have, however, built websites for clients that did not support IE 6 and most of them asked, “People still use that?”.

You keep saying it takes hours to make your sites IE6 compatible which seems to be a bit of a stretch. The fact is to many people are still using it and I don’t think it’s our place to dictate what browsers people use. This marketplace is a place of business and to my knowledge doesn’t have a hidden agenda to convert users to other browsers. Personally I think it should be bold and much bigger stating that this theme doesn’t support IE6 so that there isn’t any confusion about what a buyer is expecting.

Fine. I unwillingly will keep working on IE6 issues just as long as I know my commercial product is worth it since we still have another community who consider themselves obedient to the dino IE6 users.

I tried to say we have the power to bury this stupid browser to the ground and still we do nothing but keep serving for it, hence keeping IE6 breathe and alive.

Whatever, whatever. Thank you all for your ideas and comments on this.

PS: Retarded IE6 issues on my theme are fixed.

At the same time, as creative professionals I do believe that we need to know when to say no and stop supporting something. I know there are plenty of people that disagree with that. The remaining population using IE 6 are not exactly the target audience most companies online are going for. So maybe 20% are still using IE 6 but only a small percentage of that 20% are actually people that business’ are trying to get as customers.

I would say 80% of my clients are still using IE6 and I build websites for them! I know, it’s crazy, but it’s happened many times to me: Client wants to see a work-in-progress, so I send him a link to the public side of our dev server and I get an email back instantly, “Hey, it looks weird.” (IE6 user). MOST IE6 users are businesses because they can’t upgrade or don’t want to upgrade. Usually after convincing them that ie7 is NOT the same as installing Vista and it WILL prevent lots of nasty things and then letting them know that IE6 hasn’t been updated in several years….they’ll change their mind…but then you have the big companies whose IT departments are to dumb to upgrade everyone….which case….you’re stuck.

I hate styling for IE6 but it’s a must if you’re going to have big clients. You simple don’t have a choice.

ONURO : I don’t think you should be required to support ie6 in templates as that is the buyer’s decision. And besides, they can always add support if they want.

And to all those that say “It takes hours to implement for IE6 .” The only way I can fathom it taking “hours” is because of the javascript support. CSS support is easy and there’s a ton of resources on the web if you’re ever stuck.

ONURO : I don’t think you should be required to support ie6 in templates as that is the buyer’s decision. And besides, they can always add support if they want.

True but this first time my work got rejected for not supporting IE6 and I appreciate their policy. I just can’t stand the fact that’s all =)

It’s not that it DOES take hours to fix themes/templates for IE 6 , it’s that it CAN . Most of the time it’s the same old bugs that most people are aware of. BUT , I’ve ran into a few bugs that took awhile to figure out how to fix in IE 6 .

@shadow66142000 – Computer applications programmers dictate requirements to buyers, web templates/themes are no different. All web designers have an agenda (not hidden usually) and converting people to modern day browsers should be on that agenda. Having it boldly state that it doesn’t support IE 6 , is in my opinion unfair to the developer. If a buyer isn’t smart enough to check for IE 6 compatibility and it says if it does or not on the purchase page, it’s the buyers fault.

We shouldn’t be conforming our ways to support ignorant people (not to be confused with stupid). This is a problem I faced at Newspapers as a graphic designer.

Technology is about looking forward, not behind you. Eventually IE 6 will STOP being supported just the same as Microsoft stops supporting old operating systems and other companies stop supporting their old technology from 20+ years ago.

@rblalock – If 80% of your clients still use IE 6 , you live among a large percentage of the 20% of total IE 6 users and that is not going to be the case for most of us.

And like I said earlier, know who will be buying your templates/themes. If it’s focused towards business’ then supporting IE 6 is a really good idea. If it’s some blogger or client that just wants a personal site, IE 6 probably won’t matter.