flashedge said
DoubleX saidI have to disagree.
The only products from HP which I can recommend are their printers.HP is the king of planned obsolescence. My OfficeJet died last year and after some googling I found that they have chips built-in that makes them unusable after 5 years.
If you call HP Support they ask you to buy a new one. I had the guts to fix it myself. I opened my printer and unplugged the wifi card which resetted the whole thing and it works again without spending a cent. I even plugged my router to it and have again wifi printing over my place.
Kiss me, HP.
Unbelievable… scumbags 
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cmt said
Do you happen to know what was the HDD brand? My new Asus has Western Digital, probably HP put one low-class of them in your laptop, to lower the price.
It was a Hitachi. But the Samsung which worked for several years had Hitachi too. That HD still works, I will buy an adapter and I will use it like external Hard Drive.
Alex_rich said
Now use HP notebook, and periodically hear such a metallic noise too, but I have no complaints for functionality yet. Hope i’ll change this device in the coming soon future![]()
At the first one, with the metallic noise, a quick search on web provided two explanations. The noise could be the vent or the HDD . I believe it was the HDD from the location of the noise inside the laptop body but I can’t be sure off course.
In both cases is not good. If is the HDD then one day it may fail and you could use precious data. If is the vent, then if it get’s stuck or something, you can fry the CPU or GPU .
I have a friend who purchased an HP couple a weeks before me, it works and I hope he will not have problems.
permian said
I was going to recommend Asus to you, but turns out you’ve already got one at the end of the story )
Is all well for now with this one but the audio is really bad. Maybe is a driver issue. But since I don’t watch movies or listen music I will let this go.
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doru said
Is all well for now with this one but the audio is really bad. Maybe is a driver issue. But since I don’t watch movies or listen music I will let this go.
For external output you can buy some low-cost USB sound card such as Behringer UCA200 , my Asus also has unsatisfying quality of the built-in sound card and driver. For the built-in speakers the sound does its work, as long as you don’t rely on it for music, as you mentioned.
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At the moment it’s dell all the way for me! Previously it was toshiba but they’ve gone downhill a little… And when i say dell, i mean dell vostro range, business laptops all the way! We have 3 in the family and they work wonders!
But yeah, you’ll always get that faulty set of laptops in all brands, unfortunately it happens a lot more than we’d all like!
flashedge said
DoubleX saidI have to disagree. HP is the king of planned obsolescence. My OfficeJet died last year and after some googling I found that they have chips built-in that makes them unusable after 5 years…
The only products from HP which I can recommend are their printers.
Thanks for the info, I’m really curious how long will our printers last, we have two HPs, one for five-six years and second for three years.
After your words, there is nothing I can recommend from HP then…
Alex_rich saidThere is a tin “heat sink” around the fan – held in place by extremely thin double sided sticky tape. When the laptop gets hot enough, the adhesive on the tape will not work well. The allows the tin to become loose and the vibration from the fan can make it rattle. I use plastic weld to fix that issue. If it where the HDD , your comp would most likely not work.
Now use HP notebook, and periodically hear such a metallic noise too, but I have no complaints for functionality yet. Hope i’ll change this device in the coming soon future![]()
canimalition saidThis is an overheating issue. The laptop will power itself off in a self-preservation sort of way – ie: power off now or blow-up! I don’t know what PES 2012 is, but if its anything like other modern games, its probably overheating the gpu (video card). There is/was a major issue with certain gpus in HP laptops to get hot and “unseat” themselves.
I bought 2 laptops for my friends, and works great, but the only problem is when my friend playin a games such as PES 2012 , the laptops always die after couple minutes.
HP can be good printers – as long as you don’t install all the bloated crapware that they pack with their drivers. I cannot believe how much garbage they expect people to put on their computers!! Of course, this only follows suit with the amount of bloatware they ship with their laptops!
I miss the old dot-matrix – one driver – no B.S. – hardly ever broke down! “ink” lasted “forever” – of course, I only print once every 3 to 4 months.
CodeFusion said
There is a tin “heat sink” around the fan – held in place by extremely thin double sided sticky tape. When the laptop gets hot enough, the adhesive on the tape will not work well. The allows the tin to become loose and the vibration from the fan can make it rattle. I use plastic weld to fix that issue. If it where the HDD , your comp would most likely not work.
Yeah I dont turn off my laptop all day long, but I think it really need a few hours of rest for it to work better

How about THOSHIBA ?
DoubleX said
flashedge saidThanks for the info, I’m really curious how long will our printers last, we have two HPs, one for five-six years and second for three years.
DoubleX saidI have to disagree. HP is the king of planned obsolescence. My OfficeJet died last year and after some googling I found that they have chips built-in that makes them unusable after 5 years…
The only products from HP which I can recommend are their printers.
After your words, there is nothing I can recommend from HP then…
totally crazy!
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CodeFusion said
There is/was a major issue with certain gpus in HP laptops to get hot and “unseat” themselves.
ironically I need to defend hp just for some degrees in this particular issue if we speak about the same incident off course.
The legend go like this, couple of years ago, for various motives, the composition of the metal that connect the graphic chip to the mother board had been changed. But Nvidia engineers made a mistake in calculating the resistance to heat of the new metal. The graphic chip is connected to the mother board by using lots of tiny spheres arranged in a grid, and in time, if the metal reached relatively low temperatures like 80°C some of those tiny balls will melt and touch each outer. The graphic chip and the entire laptop will still work but the screen will be black since it will not receive the data from the chip correctly.
This happened on different brands that used the Nvidia GPU : HP, Dell, Samsung, Apple. The issue will inevitable appear after a few years of using the laptop because the dust will accumulate and the internal temperatures will rise to the infamous point. Note that the bios knows to shut down the system if it reaches a certain temperatures but because the melting point was below what they considered dangerously hot the system will just fail.
I had this issue on a Samsung two years ago. After some research I found out about this story. I also found out that in the US there was a big legal fight between the clients and various notebook manufacturers and between the notebook manufactures and Nvidia. I don’t know how this ended probably good for the corporations and bad for their clients like always.
Because I live in Europe no one cared about this problem so I had to “repair” myself my laptop using incredible methods like getting the motherboard out of the notebook and cook it in the oven. And I can testify it worked. Off course every couple of months one had to repeat the process.
Just search on internet for reflow for the “do it yourself method of repair” or reball for the “professional” method of repair.
