Change Referral System

quickandeasy said
@dignotion, I don’t think I understand what you’re saying, but once a visitor has clicked your link, you get 90 days for them to sign up (unless they clear their cookies). If they sign up in that period, you will always be credited with a referral cut if they ever decide to deposit – even if that is 12 months later.

Yes, But. take the next scenarios for example:

1. A user clicked my referral link, then didn’t register for the next 90 days (which means i’m no longer credited for him). A year later the same user clicks your link, registers and deposits $200 – you don’t get any commission,

2. A user browsed the web and randomly landed on AudioJungle.. looks around and goes out.. 2 years later the same guy needs a template for a website, he looks for info, get to your blog and read about the wonders of ThemeForest. The guy get immediately sold by your honest and attractive blog post, enters the site through your link, registers and end up buying themes endlessly. You, still, under those terms, get nothing.

Fair? I think not. and so does many in the affiliate industry who work on a ‘Last click’ basis rather than this vague list of anyone who ever dropped by one of Envato’s sites.

I’m not disagreeing with anyone in this thread, just giving my own opinion. If Envato introduce a more lucrative system, I’m definitely not going to complain!

RE your examples,

1) if you refer someone who doesn’t sign up, that’s your fault for not giving them the information they were looking for / sending targeted traffic, right? If you send a woman into a menswear shop, you can’t complain when she doesn’t buy anything, if you see my point?

2) I was under the impression the Envato cookie only lasted 90 days too, I can’t find any information to clear that up right now though.

Edit: I know it says “If you have visited one of the Envato Marketplaces before and then click a referral link, it doesn’t count” – but it doesn’t say ‘ever visited one of the Envato Marketplaces’ – So I was under the impression that it was referring to above “If a person clicks a link, they have three months until the cookie expires”

- I will ask a staff member for more info.

Whilst Envato may run a different affiliate scheme to other’s out there, as I’ve said previously, in my opinion, I think it is a very lucrative system when used effectively.

rylvision said
1. A user clicked my referral link, then didn’t register for the next 90 days (which means i’m no longer credited for him). A year later the same user clicks your link, registers and deposits $200 – you don’t get any commission,

the cookie expires. a year later envato will not know that user has visited the site before. you will receive the commission on the $200.

rylvision said
2. A user browsed the web and randomly landed on AudioJungle.. looks around and goes out.. 2 years later

as above. 2 years later the cookie has expired. this user has never visited envato before. you receive commission. totally fair.

Absolutely,positively +1 for this topic.

I would love to see the referral system changed to a recurring one like the original post describes.

It’s been mentioned a few times on the forum. The referral system is the oldest part of the marketplace. When they do get around to re-vamping it (after more pressing features are done) I’m sure we will see the usual envato genius shine through.

The current system is extremely poor on how it is setup – real marketers who could drive large amounts of traffic here and in turn increase all sales and earnings are 100% put off by the current model.

ALL marketers want repeat earnings – forget the 30% on initial as that’s practically useless and is like a shiny large percentage to entice but as previously stated here earning per purchase is what everyone wants – just make it 10% on any link clicked from a referrer – no cookies just straight click link – buy (however they buy) and bam affiliate earns 10% – everyone happy.

You would also have to have a more robust API for the marketplaces and then you will see literally thousands of affiliates sprout up sites with TF products displayed in unusual ways to entice clicks and purchases – it’s how the affiliate world works at it’s best imo.

Although this thread is useless because this has been discussed here many many times over many many years

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Jonathan

jonathan01 said
The current system is extremely poor on how it is setup – real marketers who could drive large amounts of traffic here and in turn increase all sales and earnings are 100% put off by the current model.

ALL marketers want repeat earnings – forget the 30% on initial as that’s practically useless and is like a shiny large percentage to entice but as previously stated here earning per purchase is what everyone wants – just make it 10% on any link clicked from a referrer – no cookies just straight click link – buy (however they buy) and bam affiliate earns 10% – everyone happy.

You would also have to have a more robust API for the marketplaces and then you will see literally thousands of affiliates sprout up sites with TF products displayed in unusual ways to entice clicks and purchases – it’s how the affiliate world works at it’s best imo.

Although this thread is useless because this has been discussed here many many times over many many years

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Jonathan

+1

quickandeasy said
Maybe something like an Elite Referrals badge + rate would be good, where you would receive these rates.

this is good idea with Elite Referrals, for example the people who refer more than 1000 registered and deposited users can earn money + 10% for each deposit of refer member

For example he earn: 30% for first deposit (>1 000 refers) and 30% for first deposit + 10% for each deposit o refers (1 000+ more refers – Elite Referrals)

This is moving away from the original point though.

jonathan01 said

ALL marketers want repeat earnings – forget the 30% on initial as that’s practically useless and is like a shiny large percentage to entice but as previously stated here earning per purchase is what everyone wants – just make it 10% on any link clicked from a referrer – no cookies just straight click link – buy (however they buy) and bam affiliate earns 10% – everyone happy.

You would also have to have a more robust API for the marketplaces and then you will see literally thousands of affiliates sprout up sites with TF products displayed in unusual ways to entice clicks and purchases – it’s how the affiliate world works at it’s best imo.

Although this thread is useless because this has been discussed here many many times over many many years

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Jonathan

If what you’ve siad here is true, then it pretty much seems like a “no brainer” to me.

IMHO

If anything, maybe a trail period is warranted here. Try the 10% deal, and after a certain period of time if certain financial goals for Envato aren’t being met, return to the current system.

- guitarjock